Everyone is going to hate me for saying this; however, as D4 seems to be looming in the back of the minds of many I hope that Blizzard will bring back the Auction House for this one along with Seasons right out of the gate. The auction house added an immense amount of value and entertainment for me right out of the gate. It was fun to browse through items and dream and a ton of fun how the best stuff was so incredibly rare.
I also loved how difficult the game was when it was first released. There was something mysterious and challenging about it all. If seasons are included without the auction house, this will satisfy all the hardcore people as well! Anyway, hopefully someone out there agrees with me.
It was undeniable entertainment for many of us and satisfies Blizzards ability to monetize the game how they'd like to. The removal of the Auction House was one of, if not the best thing that ever happened to Diablo 3. And Blizzard moved from ' We want to know how it feels like to be a financial institution' to ' Oh sh-, almost forgot that we're actually a video games developer'.
I never wanted to play the Auction House, I wanted to play Diablo. Anyway, I could go on with this for weeks but if there's one thing I don't want to see in a would-be Diablo 4 is the 'return' of the Auction House in any imaginable way, shape and form. Anyway, gut feeling says that if they do something new for the Diablo franchise it won't be a full-fledged numbered sequel to D3. It might be another expansion pack or some kind of spin-off mini-game within D3 or something that won't take them another complete decade to develop. Do you know how much time it took them to cook up Diablo 3? I guarantee you we won't see Diablo 4 anytime soon.
Global Trading: Yes please Auction house (esp. RM AH): Hell no The AH in D3 was simply a trading simulator dominated by AH bots bcs there wasnt a interaction with the person who sell the item. I wish myself back trading like in Diablo 2, where you have to talk with people and join different dedicated server to trade item vs item. Means where you have to bargain with other people for a item with a better offer than the other player, not only have the better AH bot that can find the best offers faster than you. Trading in D2 was a big social feature and the place where surely many of us D2 Veterans found a lot of gaming and real life friends. Hope to see this kind of feature in D4 too.at least for the social purpose. To prevent 'pay2win' trough 3rd party shops where you can buy items for RM I made a suggestion here that could work.
I think global trading could work if done correctly.sadly the AH in D3 was a fail and hope that Blizzard learned from this mistake to do it better in D4.;). Global Trading: Yes please Action house (esp. RM AH): Hell no All removing the AH does is actually make it more difficult for people to move goods by having to subject themselves to third party valuations if they even want to hope to not get ripped off. Meanwhile, actual real money trades become that much more riskier since instead of Blizz being the middleman, you're giving your credit card/paypal info to someone you've never met before. Ultimately, the primary flaws of the AH were that goods weren't moved exclusively through it (enabling things to go over the gold and real money cap via direct trades), listing fees weren't severe enough to curb flipping, items lacked a transaction history (including costs sold at), and that items themselves didn't eventually become bound after so many sales.
The market essentially favored the sellers exponentially, which further paired with the flaws of the game's loot system at the time, we wound up with it simply being more profitable to not play the game. End of the day, I'm not against a format of limited trading, but the whole freest of free markets some aspire to is catastrophic to anyone that doesn't bot, live and breathe the game, or is a part of some organization like the RMT are apt to be. Doubly so when playing self found means you have no hope of ever finishing the basics of a build. 03:46 PMPosted by Global trading leads to a parallel market that also uses real money, but without Blizzard supervision. It's even worse than RMAH, as it gets flooded by scammers. Read my suggestion linked below.the trading token system I suggest would drasticly reduce the ammount that 3rd party item shops can sell. Bcs you AND the shop owner have to find this token people will have to wait for days to get the item from the shop.
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With a very low droprate the shop owner can only trade a item to the customer about every 2nd day. (very low droprate for this token) Example: Customer A, B,C, bought a item on the same day. Customer A order a 'Tal Rashas Helmet' - shop owner sell it and after that has to find a new token. (bcs u can have only 1 at the same time) - After 2 days he found a new token (bcs very low droprate) and can sell customer B 'tal rashas shoes' f.e.
Customer C now already wait 4 days for his item, even if all of them ordered it the same day.bcs the shop owner has to find again a new token.etc. And theyre not only 3 customers a day.theyre 100.means customer 100 has to wait about 200 days for his item bcs the shop owner has to find a token. Even if he run 1000 accounts its not lucrative at all bcs he has to play all the 1000 accounts. Think its easy for Blizzard to find this ammount of accounts who use bots and a very good deal for them at the same time (50€ for 1 account).;) Means 3rd party websites will be broke before they can sell that ammount of items to write black numbers on theyr bank account.and if Blizzard ban them constantly they will reduce those shops to nearly 0. But this token system is only ment for global trading.the group trading should stay as it is.means that you can trade with your group members within 2 hours. I think you greatly underestimate the lengths people will go to, to abuse any kind of system. You will have dupers attempting to dupe, you will have cabals of people swapping tokens and everything to appear legit, all you will accomplish is making ever more elaborate hoops for players to jump through, when you can avoid all that, just by leaving the system the way it is.
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At this point ANY trading discussion/option is just viewed as automatic trolling. No matter how well reasoned or rationalized an argument, it's just like communism.
Great on paper, horrible once people get involved. 05:05 PMPosted by At this point ANY trading discussion/option is just viewed as automatic trolling. No matter how well reasoned or rationalized an argument, it's just like communism. Great on paper, horrible once people get involved.
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I ask myself how the indie devs of POE can manage that trade work and a big company like Blizzard not. POE works perfect, even with trading. As long as it isnt a E-sport game or a RM money shop where you can buy the best items only for RM (and cant find them ingame) I dont see any problems here. If a rich kiddy spend 1000€ for his gear its his problem.I will get to this gear point too without spending 1 cent. And dont forget.u cant buy skill.u can have all gear primal ancient but u will fail when u dont know how to play. And even if it doesent matter.nothing to win here.
But bcs some people love trading and some here hate it.why dont make 2 modes like in POE? The normal mode where global trading allowed (with lower legendary droprate) and one 'Self found mode' for those who dislike trading (with the current legendary droprate).and everyone would be happy.;).